Jai Sai Master!

I pray to mastergaru

"Please be with us always..(smruthimaathra prasannaaya namah)"
"Please forgive our mistakes..(karunaamoorthaye namah)"
I dont say "May Master Bless us all" because he said his blessings are always present..
Rather I pray "May we improve our abilities to receive his ever showering Blessings..(krupaa kataksha swaroopaya namah)"

May All our sadhanaas come to a fruition..

Jai Sai Master!
  

Jai Sai Master!

In the East, so many devices have been tried... how to stop the mind chattering continuously, how
to bypass it, how to stop it, how to go beyond it. Chuang Tzu has his own, unique contribution. He
talks to his disciples in absurdities, and the mind cannot tackle them. The mind needs something
reasonable, rational, logical; that is its territory. The absurd is beyond it.
I am telling you the famous story about Chuang Tzu: One morning he woke up with tears in his eyes,
so sad and so depressed. His disciples had never seen him sad or depressed or with tears; he is
an enlightened master... what has happened? They all rushed and enquired, ”Can we be of some
help?” Chuang Tzu said, ”I don’t think so.” They said, ”Still, we want to know what is the problem
that is torturing you so much. You are beyond problems!”
Chuang Tzu said, ”I used to be, but last night I saw a dream and it has disturbed my whole
attainment, achievement, self-realization, enlightenment – everything has gone down the drain.”
They said, ”Just a dream?” He said, ”It was not just a dream, it has shattered me into pieces.” They
said, ”Still, please tell us the dream!”
The dream was that Chuang Tzu saw that he had become a butterfly. All the disciples laughed. They
said, ”Unnecessarily being depressed and crying and tears and thinking that your enlightenment and
self-realization have all gone down the drain.... It is an ordinary dream, nothing to be worried about
it. In dreams people see themselves becoming many things, but a dream is a dream.”
Chuang Tzu said, ”I understand that a dream is a dream. The problem is that I am worried, who
am I? If Chuang Tzu in his sleep can dream that he has become a butterfly, a butterfly in her dream
can see she has become Chuang Tzu. And now I am puzzled. Who am I? – a Chuang Tzu or a
butterfly?
”If Chuang Tzu is capable of dreaming himself to be a butterfly, you cannot cancel the possibility of a
butterfly taking a nap on the rose bushes and dreaming that she has become Chuang Tzu. Who can
prevent her? And the question is, have I awakened, or is the butterfly dreaming that she is Chuang
Tzu? You tell me who I am! – the butterfly or Chuang Tzu.”
They were all at a loss... what to say? This man goes on finding such absurd things. Millions of
people for millions of years have been dreaming, but nobody has raised this question. You have
been dreaming, but have you ever raised this question? – that when you wake up perhaps it is the
beginning of a new dream.
What makes you so certain that you are not dreaming? – in the dream you were so certain that
you are a butterfly, and now you are so certain that you are Chuang Tzu. There is no difference in
certainty. In fact when you are awake the possibility of suspicion is there, you can doubt; but when
you are dreaming, there is even no doubt at all, no suspicion, no question mark – you are simply a
butterfly.
He said, ”Sit down and meditate and find out the answer – who am I?” They looked at each other –
how to meditate upon it, how to think about it? It is unthinkable, it is beyond the mind. His closest
disciple, Lieh Tzu, had gone out to the nearest village. He returned; he saw the whole scene:
Chuang Tzu in tears sitting on his bed, all the disciples with closed eyes, their minds completely
stuck.
What can the mind say about it? The question is absurd. He asked one of the disciples who was near
the door, ”What is the matter? It seems to be really serious! I have never seen such seriousness
here. And why is our master crying? Has somebody died or something?”
The disciple said, ”He has created a new absurdity. Nobody has died and nothing has happened;
he is torturing us and nothing else! Now we have to meditate upon it.” And he told him the problem.
Lieh Tzu said, ”Don’t be worried. You meditate; I am coming.”

Iam very much eager to tell the story how Lieh Tzu has solved the problem.But I would like my friends over here
to try this...Post your reply here how Lieh Tzu would have solved this problem and saved his friends
if you are interested with these kind of stories.As the sources are not in online and the books are right
 now not available I am unable to post the references.
This answer will be very very interesting and i will post tomorrow how he solved that......

Jai Sai Master!

Jai Sai Master!

Dear friends, As there is not much discussion regarding my first topic, I am proceeding to the second one – “Nourishment of Ego-The great danger ahead”. I have decided not share “Wastage of a seeker's energy during sadhana due to trivial reasons”(which  I mentioned initially) due to some obvious reasons.As mentioned in the previous posts, I have sensed few reasons for dilution of a Master’s Teaching and suggested a solution from master’s teaching as I understood. I feel this is not an ordinary issue that one can simply ignore as already in the name of Baba, many stupid are happening. Eg: Chain letters—send this letter/mail to 100 people otherwise you will be in trouble. People who have not read about Baba feel  this is really something worth considering (as baba is the popular god with many temples around).what kind of stupidity is this!! Problems are many more to think about. Generally I discuss with my friends and family. It is good that we have  a platform like this where many people are working together. This post too is an other thought which I felt will help the fellow travellers. And I am mentioning  the solution from our master’s teaching which I feel is apt.
 
“Nourishment of Ego-The great danger ahead”

Subtler are the deceptions by things which are subtle. Ego, being a non tangible thing has deceived, deceiving and going to deceive many.  If the other person praises us, many of us feel happy-simple observation. This simple trick of ego has trapped even giants in their path. In olden days, even so called gurus used to wear kashaya, rudraksha etc..imitating the dressing of real ones—many people simply follow them and worship them. These gurus sacrificed many things for fitting the definition of a saint – if people believe that a saint should be naked, these are ready to go naked round the roads..!! The true “fakirs” don’t bother about others’ opinion, they don’t imitate anyone. When Baba appeared in shirdi, everybody has their own definition of sadhu which is not suited to him. A common conception is –a sadhu should not scold or get angry or use bad words. Nothing fits to Baba.

It all seems very funny if we know about fake gurus and their ways. But here is some great insight that everybody has to think about..our nourishment of ego. Are we doing something for the sake of being good? Are we talking to impress others thereby impressing ourselves? It is very comfortable for us in a society where we are obediently following  the rules and others are giving respect to us. This may become a habit (has already become in many) in us. Today those who are praising us may not be with us tomorrow, even if they are with us how will their appraisal help us in our journey (the inner journey)where only we have to travel, which we are struggling since many lives(if we believe). A girl may consider herself beautiful if many people are observing her,trying to talk with her etc..She will look into their eyes and confirms herself as a beauty(as their eyes are looking at her). A guy may consider himself to be a genius if many people are listening to him. Here is the trap I feel where one has to be very careful in one’s journey.

It is a great consolation and relaxation for a person that many are praising him. Daily he has to cope up with the idea of others. In small and simple things also this can be seen. For example in Baba’s life, a person sat in a particular place in Dwarakamai for few times and he assumed it as his place. Even he scolded a small girl who tried to sit there. If it would have been a rich person he might have allowed. If people with greed,desire,lust etc.. cannot find anything in life, they may try their luck in the name of spirituality. A person who is unable to understand his technical subject  may listen to few speeches or read few books about meditation and start preaching to his friends—what will you get by this material things—life is transient, strive for the soul!!!Wow, many people are talking a lot of spiritual things,”truth”-this world is really in “satya” yuga!!!Ego is not interested in leaving People who are doing something even I guess!!They may feel we are doing where others are not doing..Very subtle are its ways!!In his own eyes he is something higher than others – now the name is spiritual!!

And the answer I got from our Master’s literature is like this..We have to be aware of our own intentions. Mastergaru has mentioned in pravachanamulu and in other books, our result of the action is depended on  our own intentions. Just try this small experiment. Imagine a situation::we believed that a method is right and we are arguing with others. The experiment is: just pause for a moment and ask yourself::What for I am arguing? What is my intention now? Is this argument to prove the correctness of my logic? Am I talking to exhibit that I know? Am I learning something from the discussion? This experiment has brought out lot of insights in me. I was shocked that almost always my intentions are misleading me from my path. If a person asks me a doubt, I used to feel enthusiastic while explaining but if the same person suggest me something I was shocked to notice my feeling!!! I could have given the answer with the intention : “ this is the situation mastergaru has provided to me, let me do it to my best” . Now I am little alert (not every time—but trying my level best).Though people around me are not understanding (even close friends), I am not much worried now about their opinions asI understood that  only I can be aware of my intentions.

Awaiting for forum members valuable responses and comments… 

Jai Sai Master!



 

 
     
 

Jai Sai Master!

Good points arun,


I agree with what you said.. Just wanted to add about false humility. In the name of spirituality, goodness, etc., some people go on saying "its all Baba's will", and "I am nothing". But when you question them, (or ourselves), thats when it becomes clear, whether the feeling of "I am nothing" is right or wrong. Or, people evade questioning itself in this name. Such false humility, IMHO is a big problem in the so called "devotees".  As vivekananda points out, one has to learn to take responsibility for oneself, and as Master says, then only one can leave the responsibility to the Guru.

Jai Sai Master!!

Jai Sai Master!

Uttam garu, I am going through the other threads in the forum.Really there is a lot more to learn here.
Well said. I am reminded of the sloka

Satsangatve nissangatvam,
Nissangatve nirmohatvam,
Nirmohatve nischalatatvam,
Nischalatatve Jeevanmuktam..---Sri Sankara Bhagavadpada

Dwaraka garu,
                   
What you have mentioned is true. I met very few people like them.The common points i have observed in them are 1.They have read few spiritual books. 2. If we question them, they will become upset. After my experience with first two persons of this category, i have decided not to argue with them.Reasons are 1.They will become upset and may not be close with me as previously. 2. There is feeling of guilt in me after questioning them--did i hurt a good person or what?? Don't know what is the solution-so only way is silence.   

Raghuram garu,
 

Firstly you have to answer me some pending questions which i have asked you long back in previous posts, only then i will answer.
Secondly answering this question here is little difficult because there is a possibility one may misunderstand the tone in which i am speaking.So to answer that one prerequisite--you have to feel that you are listening to your very close friend.If this condition is ok for you i will proceed..

Jai Sai Master!

Dear Dwaraka garu,
Many Thanks for reminding "The more we understand the problem,clearer the solution becomes!!" Iam trying now to understand.

The Problem as i understood till now

In General:

It is very clear from the lives of all the realised ones, if we have atleast a glance, that one can have a better way of living compared to how we are living now - a life with more clarity,more joy,better understanding,more than all a blissful state of mind. But the are reasons that are stopping us from attaining are trivial,very stupid and silly.There is always a better way of looking into the things.Im still trying to see the problem clearly...

In Particular:

Whenever i see people with false humility,i understand all of us have one or the other blockage in their path,if it is removed one can flow with life current without any resistance and reach the goal.It is like a river has already born,where can it reach other than ocean? only some obstacles are on its way.Just by removing them--the river will merge with ocean.For one,it is false humility,for other it is pride,for other it may be the very desire of attaining etc...Just the removal of this dust makes the mirror clear.No one is higher or lower,just the quantity of the dust to be removed decides...

Friends,good people,known people if they are struggling with these and it is really frustrating when we are trying to help--and that help is becoming a hindrance for their understanding..what to do?how to help?only answer i got is pray to baba--"correct me if iam wrong,please show us the right way.. only you are capable.."   what else can i do? 

sorry if i had written something meaningless.I just poured my flow of thoughts.I respect this forum and i dont want to throw garbage from my mind into a holy place---Still trying to see the problem clearly....

Jai Sai Master! 

Jai Sai Master!

Uttam garu, while thinking about the question asked by dwaraka garu "what is the problem? where does it come from?",I remembered some past incidents and due to some deviation i wrote something!!But happy to read your reply because I am also applying the same technique while talking with my family and friends-starting with what they like,slowly trying to discuss about Mahatmas!!!Thank you so much for sharing..

Jai Sai Master!